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Simon ([personal profile] kneeshooter) wrote2006-10-05 12:19 pm
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Fear and Loathing in Newcastle

I'm positively fuming, as I suspected I might be. I'm listening to a presentation, actually - let's call it a scare story - from CEOP. The presenter is telling me, rather badly, that looking at pr0n will make me a paedophile.

I am not claiming that it's not a serious issue and that real harm is done to children around to world because of child pr0n, but I resent being piss-poor attempts to intimidate and scare me.

Now I shall attempt to say something sensible in the Q&A.

My starting list is:

"How much do you spend on education as compared to detection/prosecution?"
"Do you believe that the problem can be solved?"
"How much evidence is there of translation from online into the offline world?"

More suggestions welcome.

[identity profile] skinfitz.livejournal.com 2006-10-05 11:46 am (UTC)(link)
Does that mean that not looking at pr0n, or looking at 'vanilla' pr0n can 'cure' paedophiles?

Didn't they try this in the past trying to 'cure' homosexuality?

[identity profile] prosperine.livejournal.com 2006-10-05 11:52 am (UTC)(link)
it does rather raise the question of whether paedophilla is an inert genetic condition or a learnt sexual practise. At which point does a person with peadolphilic attraction become a peadophile? Are they proposing to 'cure' everyone with paedophillic leanings be they acted on or not? also where does that leave the manga medium (i dont know the sub groups off by heart)?

[identity profile] skinfitz.livejournal.com 2006-10-05 11:54 am (UTC)(link)
I recall studies of brain injuries causing paedophilia; I also recall reading articles about 'growths the size of golfballs' being removed from the brains of paeodphiles.

[identity profile] prosperine.livejournal.com 2006-10-05 11:58 am (UTC)(link)
oohh.. citations?

there was a great debate about this on one of my pych boards recently.. the whole 'cure' homosexuality cases were raised.. as were the learnt behaviour stuff for bdsm.. i find it facinating.

[identity profile] skinfitz.livejournal.com 2006-10-05 12:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Trying to find some; one would think Google would be able to find this sort of thing easily.

[identity profile] prosperine.livejournal.com 2006-10-05 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
cool, thank you.

[identity profile] skinfitz.livejournal.com 2006-10-05 12:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Aha - found it - this was actually the thing I was looking for (http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2943-brain-tumour-causes-uncontrollable-paedophilia.html).

[identity profile] prosperine.livejournal.com 2006-10-05 02:21 pm (UTC)(link)
seems that was a one off slightly.. in that he 'got' peadophilla as a result but before that had been 'normal'...

although there is an frontal lobe thing going on in the other articles - ect springs to .. perhaps we can cure them all damnit!!!... and what about those who are able to function and not act out their impulses? After all if the number of child porn links and pre pubescent (that actually arent at all but really 21 yr olds in st trinian uniforms ) sites are an indicator there must be 1000 of them...are we going to 'cure' them as well of something im sure they view as ok and safe?...a functioning peadophile?